The admission bolsters a central Democratic argument of the impeachment proceedings: that the President has allowed his personal attorney to push Ukraine for investigations that benefit Trump’s political agenda.
In a phone conversation with CNN on Tuesday, Giuliani suggested that Trump has been well aware of everything he has done in Ukraine, though he declined to say if Trump directed him to go on his most recent trip there.
“We’re on the same page,” Giuliani said of Trump.
Visiting Ukraine earlier this month, Giuliani claims he gathered evidence of a wide-ranging conspiracy to prevent his and the President’s efforts to uncover years of corruption there. In Giuliani’s view, that corruption chiefly involves Trump’s domestic political opponents, including Joe Biden as well as Hillary Clinton.
Unprompted, Giuliani emphasized that he and the President are “on offense” when it comes to pursuing dirt on Democrats.
He declined to offer specific evidence that would back up his claim, though he insisted he has it.
Giuliani also admitted he pushed for her ouster because she was interfering with his work to dig up dirt on Democrats on behalf of Trump. He has long complained that the ambassador blocked some of his Ukrainian sources from coming to the United States.
When asked specifically why he pushed the issue with Trump and Pompeo, Giuliani said Yovanovitch had been “blocking witnesses to come to the United States and she had been doing it for a year.”
There’s been no proof of either of these claims, despite Giuliani making them in public statements and media appearances for the last several months.
“I haven’t heard that from the President. I think he would tell me,” Giuliani said. “I would think that if Bill Barr has a real complaint about me, President Trump would have told me that. And I’ve been told by mutual friends that it’s not true.”